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PODCAST [44] A rich music education ecology – with Dr Ally Daubney, researcher & John Bergin, Newham Music

In this episode, I talk with Dr Ally Daubney, educator, researcher, evaluator and author and John Bergin, CEO of Newham Music, one of the partners in the East London Music Alliance music education hub. Following 5 years of research into participation, professional development, progression and sustainability in music education, they’ve developed a model for what they term a ‘rich music education ecology’.

You can listen now below, or on Spotify (search for the name) and iTunes or your favourite podcast app.

What’s in this episode?

We talk about:

  • how the project came about and what it involved
  • the research and evaluation process
  • their model/concept of a rich music education ecology
  • the factors for success including accountability, pupil voice, and community involvement including as music teachers
  • what changes have happened at Newham Music as a result – including a correlation with improved pupil attainment
  • how music services, hubs and other music education partnerships can benefit from the work
  • Ally and John’s takeaways from the learning

Links for this episode

Towards a rich music education ecology

Newham Music

Ally Daubney

John Bergin

The East London Music Alliance

Transcript [44]: Dr Ally Daubney, researcher & John Bergin of Newham Music


About the music for education & wellbeing podcast

Listen in each month to get ideas, inspiration and practical advice from people involved in music education, community music, music therapy and more. Learn how you might break down barriers to music, through communications, advocacy and inclusive practice.

The music for the podcast was created by Otis Hynds, a young person working with Noise Solution.

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  1. Music for Education and Wellbeing Podcast – with Dr Ally Daubney, researcher & John Bergin, CEO of Newham Music – Music Education Works on 9th January 2025 at 2:40 pm

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