PODCAST [52] Reframing pathways into music careers, with Kate McBain and Dan Tsu

Individual images of two people: a white woman with blonde hair, and an asian man with dark hair and a beard. Beside the images, the words: Kate McBain & Dan Tsu, researchers, Youth Music's Industry Connect report

Introduction

In this podcast I’m talking with Kate McBain and Dan Tsu, researchers and authors of Industry Connect, a report commissioned by Youth Music. It explores the realities of moving from education into careers in music, particularly for young people from underrepresented backgrounds. We unpack the barriers mapped in the report and the solutions emerging from the work, including reframing how we talk about ‘the music industry’ ‘pathways’ and ‘pipelines’.

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What’s in this episode?

  • Who the report is for, and why you should read it if you’re working in music education, youth music, youth services, the creative industries
  • The three sets of findings around: How work in the music industry is communicated, promoted, understood; pathways in a changing landscape; post-16 training, education, career development
  • The recommendations around a national strategy, curriculum and careers advice, non-formal pathways and safer working cultures
  • The need to adopt a broader definition of the music industry – as an ecosystem
  • The need to recognise the diverse ways young people learn and navigate the ecosystem – and the concept of ‘nests’ and ‘flight paths’ rather than linear pipelines and a pyramic model of career progression

More information, help and resources

Listen in each month to get ideas, inspiration and practical advice from people involved in music education, community music, music therapy and more. Learn how you might break down barriers to music, through communications, advocacy and inclusive practice.

The music for the podcast was created by Otis Hynds, a young person working with Noise Solution.